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 Post subject: Re: Premature Discharge During Extraction
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:07 am 
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I still have the casing of the bullet that went catastrophic with me as the next shell in that was in the magazine. I now listen carefully, and smooth out any bulges the casings may have prior to shooting the reloads. All I know is that never did get the underwear totally cleaned up white again, had to toss that pair away! lol :eeewww: :funny: :laugh:
Want that to be the only catastrophic failure I see for the rest of my life!

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 Post subject: Re: Premature Discharge During Extraction
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:24 pm 
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As I said the mechanism is designed to keep the live ammo away from the used ammo. The extractor pulls the spent casing back. At the full rearward position of the bolt, the firing pin protrudes from the boltface. At this point the extractor has pulled the bullet far enough back that the firing pin now acts as the ejector. That's all well and good if you're firing the ammo. If you're cycling live ammo through the system to empty the gun, when you pull back the charging handle briskly and all the components line up, the extractor could pull the live ammo primer right into the firing pin. I would guess, HiPoint would reccommend dropping the magazine and carefully extracting any round in the chamber.


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 Post subject: Re: Premature Discharge During Extraction
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:27 pm 
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I would guess, HiPoint would reccommend dropping the magazine and carefully extracting any round in the chamber.


It would make for a good safety habit to get into to do it that way IMO

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 Post subject: Re: Premature Discharge During Extraction
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:54 pm 
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If you must hand cycle live ammo through your weapon may I suggest thar you pull the slide back far enough to cock it effectively capturing the firing pin. Then proceed to hand cycle the round. True the ejector/firing pin will not push the bullet out of the breech but if you hold it ejection port side down then gravity should handle that chore for you.
Personally I think this is a bad idea generally as the only way to truly perform a function check on these weapons is to fire them.

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 Post subject: Re: Premature Discharge During Extraction
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:01 pm 
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If you must hand cycle live ammo through your weapon may I suggest thar you pull the slide back far enough to cock it effectively capturing the firing pin. Then proceed to hand cycle the round. True the ejector/firing pin will not push the bullet out of the breech but if you hold it ejection port side down then gravity should handle that chore for you.
Personally I think this is a bad idea generally as the only way to truly perform a function check on these weapons is to fire them.


100% in agreement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Premature Discharge During Extraction
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:45 am 
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I have hand cycle rounds thur my hi-points many times , I belive the problem is, when you do not keep the gun clean, then the fireing pin and spring would get gunked up and stick, and you hear how some, guys never clean there guns . or only ever 500 rounds or so, I will do it with a clean gun, only.
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 Post subject: Re: Premature Discharge During Extraction
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:05 pm 
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I think you've misunderstood Express, the issue is not about having a sticky firing pin. Unlike other pistols, with HP the firing pin is designed to stick out (clean or not) when the slide goes back. That is what kicks the shell out. With traditional designs, a separate ejector is used to kick out shells, but they are positioned so as not to align with the primer and just hits the edge of the case. In the HP design where the firing pin does double duty, it has to hot the primer to ignite the charge, then again when the slide goes back to throw out (eject) the spent casing. That's fine when ejecting a spent casing because the primer already went off. But, when you manually cycle the slide (say you chose not to fire a chambered round, and just wanted to eject it) the ejector/firing pin then has to make contact with a live primer on a live cartridge. Hence the precarious situation.

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